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Nicholas Trolli Abandons Jingle Press Domains |
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Written by Santa Walter
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Friday, 23 May 2008 18:04 |
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Even though I purchased the domain names for Jingle Press without thought of being reimbursed following the weekend of February 23, 2008, once Jeff German and Nicholas Trolli directed me to set up a search-able and web-friendly version of Jingle Press Volume I, Issues 1, 2, and 3, last week I offered the domain names of jinglepress.net, jinglepress.org, and jinglepress.com to AORBS at my costs. There was no effort to charge for development costs, time spent, nor Internet Service Provider fees. The fees with proxy registration for the 3 domain names for 2 years cost $101.08. The replacement logo that was necessary to move away from Jingle Press (which is copyrighted by AORBS) cost $149.00. While I have spent a great deal more that the $250.08, that is what I requested from Nicholas to sell him the domain names. I told him in our exchange of emails that the offer was open only a short while, and he has not responded to my last missive on May 14, 9 days ago. They are no longer for sale. His efforts to have me abandon the rights to Jingle Press Online were fruitless. His condition, apparently, to buy the domain names was that I would abandon all use of Jingle Press Online. "Of course not," I replied. He did not offer to buy the domain names of jinglepressonline.org, jinglepressonline.net, nor jinglepressonline.com, but I did tell him that that would cost the full development costs that I have incurred, and that I didn't think he could afford it. He asked me to become the de-facto Publisher of Jingle Press on February 23, 2008, at 12:45 PM PST. It is well documented in posts to ElfNet, SantaTalk, IOSForum, as well as in Jingle Press Online. Since he authorized it, he cannot force me away without paying me, in my considered opinion, even though he banned me from ElfNet and subsequently refunded my $15 dues. [The day of the banning is when Jingle Press Online began a 'Recall Nick' campaign. It is still viable, if anyone is interested. The how-to is spelled out in other articles on this site.] I didn't even ask him to apologize for his 'thief and a liar' branding that he bandied about. The Jingle Press is defunct; the entire publishing team walked away when Nick and Jeff erased all references to Santa Tim from the Issue 3 article about the Santa Cruise that was organized by Santa Tim for his International University of Santa Claus. That entire team is now reviving their previous newsletter efforts on behalf of the Red Suit Roundtable. As I said in the email to Nick, he should buy the domain names for $250.08, since the offer was the right thing for me to do, as I see it. I am no longer interested in Nick nor in AORBS. I did tell him also, that it was probably in my best interests if he declined, since it signals that he is no longer interested in the Jingle Press copyright. It is truly a sad state of affairs to which we have arrived. This is a personal opinion. Nicholas or anyone else who wishes to offer a counter point of view are welcome to do so. Santa Walter Roach, Publisher of Santa's Gazette: Jingle Press Online 
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Open Letter to Nicholas Trolli of AORBS |
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Written by Santa Walter
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Thursday, 01 May 2008 13:45 |
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Hello Nicholas, Since you have asked that I not use your email account nor contact you by phone, this open letter attempts to tell you that the Amalgamated Order of Real Bearded Santas is listed as one of 8 or 9 National Santa's Societies in both Jingle Press Online as well as in Santa's Society: A Portal for Santa's Connections. It seems only right that any Santa who is not one of the reported 400-plus members of AORBS already needs to know that you exist. If we left you out of the list, then we could be called biased or be charged with selective censured publishing of information, as well as censoring. Since the announcements about Discover Arkansas and Discover Kansas City are open to the public at ElfNet, I feel that you will not mind that they are listed as Santa Happenings in our public announcements. I trust that this will meet with your satisfaction, since there is no charge for the postings. On another note, you or other members of your organization are welcome to post articles that are appropriate to the greater Santa community on Jingle Press Online as well. Thank you, Santa Walter Publisher, Jingle Press Onine |
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TWO WEEKS NOW…One Day At A Time |
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Written by Santa Ric Erwin
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Tuesday, 08 April 2008 11:38 |
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TWO WEEKS NOW… …One Day At A Time If you are a regular reader on Santa Talk, you may have noted my absence lately—and I want to thank those of you who have written & called, wondering where I’ve been and when I was coming back… (To those of you who simply considered my silence to be an answer to prayer— NO COMMENT!) The truth is, I’ve been here all along, my brothers & sisters—I’ve just been reading all of your posts silently to myself, and gradually building up my resistance against the impulse to keep stomping Jerksniff for as long as they cling stubbornly to the illusion that their coup will ultimately succeed. I have to admit to you that this hasn’t been easy for me; but it HAS been necessary— for my own well-being… When I first learned that Kentucky’s budgetary constraints had translated into a “Keep out of jail for FREE” card for Jerksniff, and it became apparent to me that they would NOT be forced to face the music for their misdeeds—well, first I was stunned, and then slightly depressed…and “depressed” just isn’t normally one of my settings! It took me quite a bit of soul-searching, and re-reading all 187 of my posts on this site, to discover that Jerksniff was not my problem, after all—rather, my “problem” was that I had allowed Jerksniff to trigger within me a regression to a more primitive spiritual state; one where “flight” was somehow considered cowardice, and “fight” somehow equated to nobility. Worse still, in this slightly Neanderthal part of my psyche, the terms of any fight were typically dictated by my opponent—that is to say, weapon selection and tactics were based mainly on whatever I felt was necessary to defeat the “bad guy” (fist-fight, knife-fight, gun-fight—if the bad guy started it, I felt that the Good Lord would want me to FINISH IT for Him…). If you only know me from my postings since the coup, you’re probably thinking, “Yep! That’s Ric, alright!”… But see, here’s the thing: |
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Convention Cancelled in Overland Park by Nicholas Trolli |
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Written by Santa Walter
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Tuesday, 01 April 2008 05:37 |
[The following is a direct copy from ElfNet of an announcement and appended opinion statements from Nicholas Trolli, the current President-Pro-Tem of AORBS. Because of its importance to the community, it is being reproduced here on Jingle Press Online as well. Mister Trolli has permission to post additional opinion pieces, if he desires, since Jingle Press Online practices freedom of speech. -- Publisher]
It is with great remorse that I have to report the following to you;
Saturday AORBS received a Federal Express letter from the Convention Center in Overland Park Kansas stating that the Discover Santa 2008 Convention has been canceled. The letter is attached here.
OP Convention Center stated that word has reached them that we were canceling our convention. No such decision was made nor announced to Overland Park. However they have sent us the letter informing us that our convention is now canceled and that the Cancellation fee is now due.
The BOD had been trying to salvage the convention despite everything that has been done to ruin it. Even though disenchanted members have called for a boycott of the convention, our work still continued, and the BoD had hoped that we would still have our gathering of Santas in Overland Park. Even though those same members have bragged that they were making phone calls to our prospective vendors telling them not to participate, even though they also bragged about making phone calls to the Convention and Visitors Bureau in their efforts to undermine our convention, the BoD still hoped and worked towards our convention.
Imagine my surprise to hear that we were canceling the convention when I personally have worked on this event every day even though I knew the odds were against us. The dissidents have done their best in their efforts to destroy AORBS. While the good members of AORBS slept they have wrecked havoc and continue to reach new lows. The only way I could save this now is to give them their $20,000 and ask them to reconsider. This is not possible because not enough members have signed up for the convention, so AORBS does not have these funds.
With this development we must now accept that the Overland Park Convention will not happen. These Santas should be dancing in the street tonight they have succeeded in killing AORBS Overland Park Convention. Jerry Cook did tell me that he talked to numerous Santas including Tim Connaghan but I do not know which one he felt had the authority to cancel our Convention. So who notified the Convention Center and canceled the convention, since the BoD did not.
Be sure and tell Tim Connaghan, Tom Hartsfield, Cindy Lu Thomas, Charlie Thomas, John Degel, Bob Elkin, Ric Erwin, Jonathan Meath, John Shager, Allen Keeney, Jac Grimes, David Greulich, Hans Hansen, David Humbert, Glenn Heald, Ronald Olsen, Walter Roach, Kevin Scott, Gordon Bailey, John Arthur, Robert Figley, Nelson Burke, Dana Caplan, Barry Walzberg, Ron Breach and Joe Moore thank you for their efforts to destroy AORBS! They have all contributed to the death of this event although some may have done more than others they were all conspirators and complicit. AORBS blood is on all of their hands. This is not just idle talk we have the proof and the evidence is already in the lawyers hands.
AORBS is not dead we just will not have a convention in Overland Park. We shall continue these malcontents will not win. Brighter Horizons are ahead the ship is leaving the docks and these above mentioned individuals are no longer on board. We are leaving them behind on the docks The Nations Premiere Fraternity of A-List Santas has no room for them.
Signed; Your President Nicholas |
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